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		<title>Comment on To (client) or not to (client) &#8211; no question by Mat Morrison</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2010/03/09/to-client-or-not-to-client-no-question/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah -- you&#039;ve taken my quote slightly out of context there. In the original post, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediaczar.com/blog/2009/05/should-we-ask-employees-to-tweet-client-stories/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Should we ask employees to retweet client stories?&lt;/a&gt; I asked readers to perform the following thought-experiment:

1) Ignore the ethics -- should clients pay for what we do? And should we do stuff for clients that they don&#039;t pay for?

2) Bring ethics back in -- If we’re paying our staff to relay messages to their networks on behalf of our clients, what makes this different from spam?

You see? There were two parts. I was trying to point out that there is a benefit to the agency and the client in our staff tweeting about their campaigns -- even if this is subsequently written off as a value-add or over-servicing, or simply ignored.

I think that paid stuff is open to abuse, too -- although I&#039;m pleased to say I&#039;ve now got an ad.ly account, and could, in theory, pay high-follower-count twitterers like @KimKardashian to promote my shizzle.

I think that it&#039;s absolutely &lt;em&gt;fine&lt;/em&gt; for employees to choose to promote stuff to their networks, btw (w/ appropriate disclosure.) My point -- which I also made in that post -- is that &lt;strong&gt;employees must be left to manage their own social networks as they see fit&lt;/strong&gt;. As their employers we should give them the training and tools they need to build their personal brands; but that this doesn&#039;t give us the right to &lt;em&gt;ask them&lt;/em&gt; to use their networks on our clients&#039; behalf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah &#8212; you&#8217;ve taken my quote slightly out of context there. In the original post, &#8220;<a href="http://mediaczar.com/blog/2009/05/should-we-ask-employees-to-tweet-client-stories/" rel="nofollow">Should we ask employees to retweet client stories?</a> I asked readers to perform the following thought-experiment:</p>
<p>1) Ignore the ethics &#8212; should clients pay for what we do? And should we do stuff for clients that they don&#8217;t pay for?</p>
<p>2) Bring ethics back in &#8212; If we’re paying our staff to relay messages to their networks on behalf of our clients, what makes this different from spam?</p>
<p>You see? There were two parts. I was trying to point out that there is a benefit to the agency and the client in our staff tweeting about their campaigns &#8212; even if this is subsequently written off as a value-add or over-servicing, or simply ignored.</p>
<p>I think that paid stuff is open to abuse, too &#8212; although I&#8217;m pleased to say I&#8217;ve now got an ad.ly account, and could, in theory, pay high-follower-count twitterers like @KimKardashian to promote my shizzle.</p>
<p>I think that it&#8217;s absolutely <em>fine</em> for employees to choose to promote stuff to their networks, btw (w/ appropriate disclosure.) My point &#8212; which I also made in that post &#8212; is that <strong>employees must be left to manage their own social networks as they see fit</strong>. As their employers we should give them the training and tools they need to build their personal brands; but that this doesn&#8217;t give us the right to <em>ask them</em> to use their networks on our clients&#8217; behalf.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To (client) or not to (client) &#8211; no question by Kate Hartley</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2010/03/09/to-client-or-not-to-client-no-question/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree Louise, great post. I think the key is: &quot;is this tweet interesting to my followers.&quot; If it is, then it&#039;s worth the tweet (with disclosure if it&#039;s a client). But there&#039;s some stuff we do for clients that however much I like it, won&#039;t interest the people that follow me on Twitter one bit. That would be a quick way to lose followers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree Louise, great post. I think the key is: &#8220;is this tweet interesting to my followers.&#8221; If it is, then it&#8217;s worth the tweet (with disclosure if it&#8217;s a client). But there&#8217;s some stuff we do for clients that however much I like it, won&#8217;t interest the people that follow me on Twitter one bit. That would be a quick way to lose followers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To (client) or not to (client) &#8211; no question by Lolly</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2010/03/09/to-client-or-not-to-client-no-question/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Lolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you re-being transparent and disclosing a tweet/blog post is on behalf of a client; I do the exact same thing (see here for e.g. http://twitter.com/blogtillyoudrop/status/10074903606) 

In social media, transparency is key... So yes, to (client)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you re-being transparent and disclosing a tweet/blog post is on behalf of a client; I do the exact same thing (see here for e.g. <a href="http://twitter.com/blogtillyoudrop/status/10074903606)" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/blogtillyoudrop/status/10074903606)</a> </p>
<p>In social media, transparency is key&#8230; So yes, to (client)</p>
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		<title>Comment on To (client) or not to (client) &#8211; no question by Andy</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2010/03/09/to-client-or-not-to-client-no-question/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first thing: You have a digital heart? What are the logistics of this? does it sit next to your regular heart?

second thing: I always wonder about the profile side of things; I work with plenty of people that fully understand Twitter, Facebook alongside a myriad of other web tools both social and non-social (bla bla, all web is social). While their own personal profile may not be that huge, the work that they&#039;ve done is visible all over the place. 

I suppose my (almost entirely lost) point is that personal (and agency) branding is important but the dilemma comes in how this gives value to a client. If the work that you&#039;re undertaking is of value then they should pay you for it, you&#039;re adding value to their brand which is what they hired you for. The difficulty comes when you start to look at whether other people should be paid for adding value - If your message is reposted by someone far more influential than you (or your agency) then surely their input is worth more than yours - how do you then decide who gets the money? (obviously the agency that are hired do - but you see where I&#039;m going with this).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first thing: You have a digital heart? What are the logistics of this? does it sit next to your regular heart?</p>
<p>second thing: I always wonder about the profile side of things; I work with plenty of people that fully understand Twitter, Facebook alongside a myriad of other web tools both social and non-social (bla bla, all web is social). While their own personal profile may not be that huge, the work that they&#8217;ve done is visible all over the place. </p>
<p>I suppose my (almost entirely lost) point is that personal (and agency) branding is important but the dilemma comes in how this gives value to a client. If the work that you&#8217;re undertaking is of value then they should pay you for it, you&#8217;re adding value to their brand which is what they hired you for. The difficulty comes when you start to look at whether other people should be paid for adding value &#8211; If your message is reposted by someone far more influential than you (or your agency) then surely their input is worth more than yours &#8211; how do you then decide who gets the money? (obviously the agency that are hired do &#8211; but you see where I&#8217;m going with this).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Posterous&#8217; simplicity, Wordpress&#8217; flexibility by Andy Thompson</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2009/08/20/posterous-simplicity-wordpress-flexibility/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I finally blogged about this the other day, on my new site that uses it, linked the post back to you.

http://andytson.com/blog/2010/01/minimous-posterous-minimalist-look-in-wordpress/

Thanks for the idea!

You know at the moment this post is the biggest source of traffic to the site. I need more visitors!

Hope you&#039;re well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I finally blogged about this the other day, on my new site that uses it, linked the post back to you.</p>
<p><a href="http://andytson.com/blog/2010/01/minimous-posterous-minimalist-look-in-wordpress/" rel="nofollow">http://andytson.com/blog/2010/01/minimous-posterous-minimalist-look-in-wordpress/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the idea!</p>
<p>You know at the moment this post is the biggest source of traffic to the site. I need more visitors!</p>
<p>Hope you&#8217;re well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Goodbye Cow, hello Rabbit. by Harry Ford</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2010/01/05/goodbye-cow-hello-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the site Louise. Anything illustrated is awesome by me ;)

Good luck with Rabbit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the site Louise. Anything illustrated is awesome by me ;)</p>
<p>Good luck with Rabbit!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Posterous&#8217; simplicity, Wordpress&#8217; flexibility by Alexandar Tzanov</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2009/08/20/posterous-simplicity-wordpress-flexibility/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandar Tzanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet. This was a great idea Louise. :)

I will have to try it out on one of my blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet. This was a great idea Louise. :)</p>
<p>I will have to try it out on one of my blogs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting all &#8216;techno&#8217;d up&#8217; by Stephen Davies</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2008/12/09/getting-all-technod-up/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do PR for HPC? I love that site. It stopped me buying a place in Summer 2007, right at the top of the housing market.

I rarely read the forums but subscribe to the HPC blog. In fact I wrote about it here: http://www.prblogger.com/2007/07/human-content-aggregators/

Noticed you like Merryn Somerset-Webb. Same. Much better analyser of the market than that Allsop woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do PR for HPC? I love that site. It stopped me buying a place in Summer 2007, right at the top of the housing market.</p>
<p>I rarely read the forums but subscribe to the HPC blog. In fact I wrote about it here: <a href="http://www.prblogger.com/2007/07/human-content-aggregators/" rel="nofollow">http://www.prblogger.com/2007/07/human-content-aggregators/</a></p>
<p>Noticed you like Merryn Somerset-Webb. Same. Much better analyser of the market than that Allsop woman.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uninformed TeleVision by Alex Williams</title>
		<link>http://louisedoherty.com/2008/05/13/uninformed-television/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a PR person definitely has its perks... although I would assume the first words you pronounce should always be &quot;petrolprices.com&quot;... hopefully your boss will let you redeem yourself.

Either way, I think what you&#039;re doing is great and I look forward to reading more of your blog posts.

PS: Fubra looks like an amazing company, it&#039;s unfortunate my UK visa expires next month :(

Cheerio!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a PR person definitely has its perks&#8230; although I would assume the first words you pronounce should always be &#8220;petrolprices.com&#8221;&#8230; hopefully your boss will let you redeem yourself.</p>
<p>Either way, I think what you&#8217;re doing is great and I look forward to reading more of your blog posts.</p>
<p>PS: Fubra looks like an amazing company, it&#8217;s unfortunate my UK visa expires next month :(</p>
<p>Cheerio!</p>
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